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		<title>Comment on Girl Handcuffed and Arrested For Writing on Desk by Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw anything about &quot;flinging scissors&quot; in Daniel Rivera&#039;s (the 5-year-old) case. Two of my three children had temper tantrums until they were 6, however I never resorted to handcuffing them and carting them off for a psychological evaluation. The babysitter, who routinely picked up Daniel at the school, arrived to find the boy calm and with his arms handcuffed behind him. The school refused to release the boy to her, but rather had him taken to a facility and had a psychological evaluation performed, without the mother&#039;s permission. To me that is as distressing as the handcuffing.

Since 1998, the NYPD has assigned more than 5,000 school safety agents and at least 200 armed police officers to NYC public schools. Reports claim that school safety agents often abuse their authority, act belligerently and disrespectfully, and provoke students into confrontations. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nyclu.org/pdfs/criminalizing_the_classroom_report.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NYCLU’s Criminalizing the Classroom (PDF)&lt;/a&gt;

The NYPD has received more than 2,700 complaints since 2002 about police abuse in schools. Dennis Rivera&#039;s mother is suing for $15 million in damages. Alexa Gonzalez and her mother are suing for $1 million.

I agree that teachers have very few options since corporal punishment has been banned. I&#039;m not sure there is a solution to this problem the way schools are restricted in their actions now. If schools were not controlled by the government, but by private organizations or local parent groups, they could set their own disciplinary measures that everyone in the school would agree to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw anything about &#8220;flinging scissors&#8221; in Daniel Rivera&#8217;s (the 5-year-old) case. Two of my three children had temper tantrums until they were 6, however I never resorted to handcuffing them and carting them off for a psychological evaluation. The babysitter, who routinely picked up Daniel at the school, arrived to find the boy calm and with his arms handcuffed behind him. The school refused to release the boy to her, but rather had him taken to a facility and had a psychological evaluation performed, without the mother&#8217;s permission. To me that is as distressing as the handcuffing.</p>
<p>Since 1998, the NYPD has assigned more than 5,000 school safety agents and at least 200 armed police officers to NYC public schools. Reports claim that school safety agents often abuse their authority, act belligerently and disrespectfully, and provoke students into confrontations. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyclu.org/pdfs/criminalizing_the_classroom_report.pdf" rel="nofollow">NYCLU’s Criminalizing the Classroom (PDF)</a></p>
<p>The NYPD has received more than 2,700 complaints since 2002 about police abuse in schools. Dennis Rivera&#8217;s mother is suing for $15 million in damages. Alexa Gonzalez and her mother are suing for $1 million.</p>
<p>I agree that teachers have very few options since corporal punishment has been banned. I&#8217;m not sure there is a solution to this problem the way schools are restricted in their actions now. If schools were not controlled by the government, but by private organizations or local parent groups, they could set their own disciplinary measures that everyone in the school would agree to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Girl Handcuffed and Arrested For Writing on Desk by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing this article, like all the others, is the fact that these kids become unhinged, causing the educators no choice but to call the police since the child is a danger to the teachers, the students, and themselves. Even the five year old as mentioned could not be constrained. They HAD TO handcuff him, though he was five. Were they to just stand there and allow him to continnously fling scissors around? I think not. Teachers are not allowed to even touch the student, thus feeling the need to call the cops when the child&#039;s behavior is threatening. But no article will admit that. I don&#039;t feel sorry for her one bit. She obviously was not abused as she looked very normal in the videos. If anything, her mother looks rather smug. I think this is frivelous law suiting at its finest my friends. Our hard earned tax dollars at work so taxes can rise just a little bit more, budget cuts increase, and teachers do not get the raises they deserve. She did the crime, now pay the price! This mother isn&#039;t teaching her anything good. It&#039;s always sue sue sue SUE! Ugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing this article, like all the others, is the fact that these kids become unhinged, causing the educators no choice but to call the police since the child is a danger to the teachers, the students, and themselves. Even the five year old as mentioned could not be constrained. They HAD TO handcuff him, though he was five. Were they to just stand there and allow him to continnously fling scissors around? I think not. Teachers are not allowed to even touch the student, thus feeling the need to call the cops when the child&#8217;s behavior is threatening. But no article will admit that. I don&#8217;t feel sorry for her one bit. She obviously was not abused as she looked very normal in the videos. If anything, her mother looks rather smug. I think this is frivelous law suiting at its finest my friends. Our hard earned tax dollars at work so taxes can rise just a little bit more, budget cuts increase, and teachers do not get the raises they deserve. She did the crime, now pay the price! This mother isn&#8217;t teaching her anything good. It&#8217;s always sue sue sue SUE! Ugh!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drunk Teachers by Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must live in some kind of utopia somewhere if students there are not influenced to drink by their classmates. It&#039;s been a few years, but in my rural high school drinking and drugs were what many of the students lived for each weekend, in addition to coming to school high during the week. From what I have heard from teens at our church and friends who are teachers, school bus drivers or school administrators, things have only gotten worse since those days. &quot;He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must live in some kind of utopia somewhere if students there are not influenced to drink by their classmates. It&#8217;s been a few years, but in my rural high school drinking and drugs were what many of the students lived for each weekend, in addition to coming to school high during the week. From what I have heard from teens at our church and friends who are teachers, school bus drivers or school administrators, things have only gotten worse since those days. &#8220;He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drunk Teachers by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply, Vicki -- I do agree with your last sentence, but I don&#039;t think the statistics that you cited really prove your first sentence, which I strongly disagree with.  Statistics are very tricky things and depend on a tremendous amount of influence.  One thing that is certain, though, is that parents must be closely involved with their children&#039;s education regardless of the school choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply, Vicki &#8212; I do agree with your last sentence, but I don&#8217;t think the statistics that you cited really prove your first sentence, which I strongly disagree with.  Statistics are very tricky things and depend on a tremendous amount of influence.  One thing that is certain, though, is that parents must be closely involved with their children&#8217;s education regardless of the school choice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drunk Teachers by Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The school environment is sort of a breeding ground for drinking and drug abuse for students.

A study from Columbia University&#039;s National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse (CASA), shows that nationwide, 40.6 percent of 9th graders, 49.7 percent of 10th graders, 50.9 percent of 11th graders, and 61.7 percent of 12th graders reported current use of alcohol.

The peer pressure to join in and fit in is more than most students can handle, as evident in the preceding statistics. I&#039;m not saying no home school students ever drink, but if such a study were done, I&#039;m sure the percentages would be very low. With more parental interaction and supervision, as well as interaction with other adults, the environment is just not as encouraging of harmful behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school environment is sort of a breeding ground for drinking and drug abuse for students.</p>
<p>A study from Columbia University&#8217;s National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse (CASA), shows that nationwide, 40.6 percent of 9th graders, 49.7 percent of 10th graders, 50.9 percent of 11th graders, and 61.7 percent of 12th graders reported current use of alcohol.</p>
<p>The peer pressure to join in and fit in is more than most students can handle, as evident in the preceding statistics. I&#8217;m not saying no home school students ever drink, but if such a study were done, I&#8217;m sure the percentages would be very low. With more parental interaction and supervision, as well as interaction with other adults, the environment is just not as encouraging of harmful behavior.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drunk Teachers by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki,

You&#039;re right -- as I reread my comment, I was unfairly judging your post, and I apologize.  It is a factual article, and I would probably agree with your comment that it probably happens more often than we hear about.  However, my comment on &quot;cherry-picking your data&quot; is valid (but I didn&#039;t explain it well enough):  The news media reports on BAD THINGS all the time, so it is easy to find these snippets of data to support a preconceived notion that public schools are bad places.  For every bad thing that I hear about in the news, I can think of ten times as many good things that happen on campus (I work closely with students every week).  As believers, we should be genuinely concerned with preaching the truth, which gives adequate consideration to BOTH sides.

My kids have never faced a drunk teacher, nor have any of their friends, nor have any of the students that I work with.  I have never faced one growing up, none of my friends have, nor hundreds of others that I have personally come into contact with.  Drunkenness is a problem of society, not of the public school system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8212; as I reread my comment, I was unfairly judging your post, and I apologize.  It is a factual article, and I would probably agree with your comment that it probably happens more often than we hear about.  However, my comment on &#8220;cherry-picking your data&#8221; is valid (but I didn&#8217;t explain it well enough):  The news media reports on BAD THINGS all the time, so it is easy to find these snippets of data to support a preconceived notion that public schools are bad places.  For every bad thing that I hear about in the news, I can think of ten times as many good things that happen on campus (I work closely with students every week).  As believers, we should be genuinely concerned with preaching the truth, which gives adequate consideration to BOTH sides.</p>
<p>My kids have never faced a drunk teacher, nor have any of their friends, nor have any of the students that I work with.  I have never faced one growing up, none of my friends have, nor hundreds of others that I have personally come into contact with.  Drunkenness is a problem of society, not of the public school system.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drunk Teachers by Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but since when is it lying to present a factual article, that is relevant to the subject of this blog? I never said or implied that this was typical of public school teachers. My guess, however, is that it happens more often than we hear about. I can say that my daughters never faced the possibility of having a drunk teacher though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but since when is it lying to present a factual article, that is relevant to the subject of this blog? I never said or implied that this was typical of public school teachers. My guess, however, is that it happens more often than we hear about. I can say that my daughters never faced the possibility of having a drunk teacher though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drunk Teachers by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathetic, Vicki ... borderline &quot;lying lips&quot; to cherry pick your data.  For every &quot;drunk&quot; school teacher there are literally millions of sober ones.  Very sad, Vicki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathetic, Vicki &#8230; borderline &#8220;lying lips&#8221; to cherry pick your data.  For every &#8220;drunk&#8221; school teacher there are literally millions of sober ones.  Very sad, Vicki.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Merry Christmas! by Lilli Donoso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilli Donoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great info, thanks for the post!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Avoid Student Loans! by Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear you are using CollegePlus also. I added links in the post to their site and to Thomas Edison.</description>
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